panky72
06-24 10:59 PM
shouldn't we think a little about our gain too ;) ..
:DAgreed.
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newbie2020
04-30 04:17 PM
Yes it is legal to upload it, Since it is a public domain file. (Judiciary committee/USCIS may also make it available to public for review)
dhesha
09-08 12:10 PM
Yes. Is there any Legislation/or anything that can be worked on to make it a Law for getting Citizenship application eligibility after 5 years (or 6 years considering time to process fingerprint/medical/etc..) of I-485 application Provided, it is been Pending for years becoz of Visa-Unavailability from state.
Does any one among the Core IV committee aware or any such point?
If anything best the Core IV can do for all us, then it should be this one. Not sure what is their opinion about it. At least we should try for it since it is covering majority of us to get benefited.
Does any one among the Core IV committee aware or any such point?
If anything best the Core IV can do for all us, then it should be this one. Not sure what is their opinion about it. At least we should try for it since it is covering majority of us to get benefited.
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NKR
06-25 11:47 AM
When a guy comes to US for education the average age is around 23 - 24 years. MS completed by 25. Most guys at that time have burning desire to do something new and innovative (either in job or starting own business).
And then you lose your libido :). Agreed�. With the delay you lose the golden period in your career and end up at a lower level. Most of the self made millionaires rockstarted young when they had the drive and desire. I still say America gains more than what they lose by delaying GC process. If they hand out GCs faster then who will work for those millionaires and billionaires?.
And then you lose your libido :). Agreed�. With the delay you lose the golden period in your career and end up at a lower level. Most of the self made millionaires rockstarted young when they had the drive and desire. I still say America gains more than what they lose by delaying GC process. If they hand out GCs faster then who will work for those millionaires and billionaires?.
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JaisGCQuest
06-23 05:17 PM
Hi..
I wud say its a brilliant thought and u shud go ahead and compile ideas and create a beautiful document. If nothing else it can be a good resource for others to read .
What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
Money in the form of Taxes and more and more skilled labor :
People in India now don't want to come on H1B's because they don't see any future in US anymore. They think instead of returning back after an unsuccesful dream of living in US they cud gather what they have currently and stay in India -- where they wud eventually have to settle later.
Money in the form of Mortagages Property Investments -
Indians mostly prefer to invest in good real estate properties atleast better than the other two dominant categories in US [ Hispanic and African - American ]. There will be a surge of better mortgage payers if the Indian population see a long term stay in US.
Skilled Labor because most companies dont hire H1bs for additional cost factor to be given to USCIS . And even if some companies want to hire H1B people for cheap labor, these skilled labor are inclined to get greencards. Most companies dont do that or may be start the whole process too late because of the long queue and they think instead putting so much efforts to make this H1B guy permananent [ hassle free] they settle for lesser skilled labor with more salary who has a permanent residence/ citizenship because they are hassle free.
Have to return back to work but ..will write more later.
Thanks
I wud say its a brilliant thought and u shud go ahead and compile ideas and create a beautiful document. If nothing else it can be a good resource for others to read .
What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
Money in the form of Taxes and more and more skilled labor :
People in India now don't want to come on H1B's because they don't see any future in US anymore. They think instead of returning back after an unsuccesful dream of living in US they cud gather what they have currently and stay in India -- where they wud eventually have to settle later.
Money in the form of Mortagages Property Investments -
Indians mostly prefer to invest in good real estate properties atleast better than the other two dominant categories in US [ Hispanic and African - American ]. There will be a surge of better mortgage payers if the Indian population see a long term stay in US.
Skilled Labor because most companies dont hire H1bs for additional cost factor to be given to USCIS . And even if some companies want to hire H1B people for cheap labor, these skilled labor are inclined to get greencards. Most companies dont do that or may be start the whole process too late because of the long queue and they think instead putting so much efforts to make this H1B guy permananent [ hassle free] they settle for lesser skilled labor with more salary who has a permanent residence/ citizenship because they are hassle free.
Have to return back to work but ..will write more later.
Thanks
guest1978
08-02 04:01 PM
This is great news!!
Ooops, i missed this in my original post. This is true for Nebraska service centre.
I am not sure about the other service centre. Sorry dudes.
Ooops, i missed this in my original post. This is true for Nebraska service centre.
I am not sure about the other service centre. Sorry dudes.
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satyasaich
07-14 04:37 PM
Please please come forward .
$5 is truly a small amount but can make a big difference, only if all of us contribute
Reasonable begining for this, but can be done more.
Please support IV
$5 is truly a small amount but can make a big difference, only if all of us contribute
Reasonable begining for this, but can be done more.
Please support IV
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Mouns
04-30 03:26 PM
Due to 9/11?
Do you understand the frustration among people who want to make this work and who want to defend the system?
In other way, what good is there to follow the law while illegals have it easier?
Great question!
--- Answer
yes we understand (sure...). Two kinds of backlogs:
1) Processing backlogs, due to the surge and other issues. We try to provide services timely, we understand our responsibility (no info as to what is being done and how this will change in the future)
2) Limitations due to law: (PDs). Demands is greater than the visa numbers (China, India, Mexico, Philipine: You are screwed here!) => 20 years or more of waiting.
Do you understand the frustration among people who want to make this work and who want to defend the system?
In other way, what good is there to follow the law while illegals have it easier?
Great question!
--- Answer
yes we understand (sure...). Two kinds of backlogs:
1) Processing backlogs, due to the surge and other issues. We try to provide services timely, we understand our responsibility (no info as to what is being done and how this will change in the future)
2) Limitations due to law: (PDs). Demands is greater than the visa numbers (China, India, Mexico, Philipine: You are screwed here!) => 20 years or more of waiting.
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gc_wow
02-23 02:32 PM
I have mailed my 485 on july 16th and NSC recieved it on july 17th.My question is looking at the TSC processing times which says July 18th,is my application already preadjusted,485notice date is september 15th.Can anybody tell me how the processing date really works.
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nivasch
03-09 12:40 PM
indio0617,
Still the meeting is going on?
Sorry to ask this Q?
Still the meeting is going on?
Sorry to ask this Q?
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sumansk
12-21 05:44 PM
Hello Pappu,
I have written this article on the plight of Work visa holders.Feel free to make editions.
Here it is..
Rewards of Being a Legal Immigrant!
The spirit of this nation had always been to award hard working and law abiding people irrespective of their color, race, culture or origin. But off late there has been a rise in the anti-immigration sentiment. One reason for this is an alarming rise in the illegal immigrants in United States estimated to be around 12 million. This has led many to believe that immigrants in general are not good for the already settled (Permanent residents and Citizens) Americans and they depress economy and put burden on the economy. This is a false notion harbored by many and needs analysis. First of all there is a vast difference between a legal and an illegal immigrant. A legal immigrant or people living temporary are here to help this nation make progress and are here to contribute to the economy of this nation. They have come here on the specific request by the companies; universities and other organizations. They are unnecessarily being victimized for their status as part of the larger immigrant community. They are the most misunderstood community today among the immigrants in general.
The temporary visitors largely are H-1 B, L-1 and Business visa holders .Many of these people are here for many years and waiting for their Green Card after having applied for it. While they continue to work for the same employer waiting for their permanent residency, they feel stagnated in their career path, salaries and even on personal development front because the law does not permit them to change employer while their green card is under process. If they do change then the whole process will have to start afresh.
As one frustrated and depressed work visa holder, Rajneesh puts it ?The plight of an immigrant can only be understood by those who are in the same shoes?. A legal immigrant who is in USA is only here on invitation by the US based companies or organizations willing to legally sponsor them for reasons that they do not have enough skilled professionals to do the job. The fate of being a person waiting in queue for a Green Card was never dreamt by me unless I was a victim of such a wait myself. The whole life revolves around waiting for just one card called green card. All the life?s plans are shelved off for some future dates. Many of them wait for settlement as they fear that buying a home or property or starting their own company may be at risk if their green Card is not approved or if they are out of status and in that case they may have to leave the country. There is a constant fear lurking in their psyche that what if they are laid off when they are waiting for their visa dates to become current so that they can apply for adjustment of status. Their dependent wives cannot work legally as law does not permit them to work while on dependent visa. These in many cases have resulted in domestic violence and depressed spouses resulting in disturbed and broken families.The spouses of these legal temporary residents stay at home and feel frustrated as they are also highly educated and can tremendously contribute to the development of the nation if given an opportunity. They feel choked as they have to plan well ahead in time for visits to home country and have to keep themselves abreast with latest immigration laws and by laws. A lack of this planning and understanding has resulted in many being denied entry while trying to re-enter. There are so many issues that they have to deal with being a temporary resident here just because they chose to come to America in search of realizing the American Dream. Most of them feel as if they made a wrong decision having come to America. This has sent a negative feedback in their native countries that America is no longer a welcoming nation for temporary work visa holders and one may have to wait up to more than ten years to get permanent residency. This feedback has turned many potential high tech and software professionals elsewhere. The current wait time in Canada and Australia is less than a year. European nations are also becoming a very welcoming society for these people. So the competition to secure them is getting hot.
While the wait becomes long the anxiety and depression starts to sets in most of the cases. Many have therefore already left this country and this is a drain on the economy as they are now a part of other nation?s economic development. Many of this class of people were educated in United States and were contributing but the immigration laws have forced them to go elsewhere. This class of people have advanced degrees from either US or other countries and have an average work experience of more than 3 years.They form the top class professionals among the populatoin and their loss is a loss to this nation.America is land of opportunity and for those willing to work hard for a better future should be rewarded and taken care of, but it seems there is no one listening right now to their voice. The spirit of America seems to be getting lost somewhere.
There are organization and groups like NumbersUSA who oppose any increase in their visa numbers which can drastically help these victims of bureaucracy, but due to their short sightedness they fail to see that the same people whom they are opposed to will help increase the economic well being of this nation once they become permanent residents. This is so because once they get permanent residency, they all will move up in the ladder demanding higher salaries and thus supporting the proponents of anti-immigrants view point. Right now they are all stuck in the same state for years. This may in some case lead to their exploitation which may in fact depress wages. Their short-sightedness, misinformation and vague propaganda have created an atmosphere where the na?ve public fails to understand the difference between the real benefactors and illegal immigrants. This has led public develop an overall anti-immigrant sentient.
Presently there is a bill pending in Senate called the SKIL bill (S.2691) introduced by senator John Cornyn (TX) Co-sponsored by George Allen (R, VA), Wayne Allard (CO), Bennett Robert (UT) and others. There is another related bill introduced by John Shadegg (AZ).This bill seeks to increase the annual visa caps for Immigrants visa under Employment category, exempt students who earned masters in USA, Allows to apply for Adjustment of Status even though there may not be immediate available Visa numbers. The bill is intended to secure the American competitiveness in 21st century while countries like India, China, Australia and European countries compete for skilled man power in Software and high tech sector to secure their competitiveness. This bill will help reduce the wait times for Temporary work Visa holders helping them assimilate faster in US society and thus securing the nations? interest.
There are reforms for this class of immigrants in the much debated comprehensive immigration Reform Bill passed by Senate but congress did not pass it. These provisions got lost in the shadow of illegal immigration debate and therefore separate bills were introduced by way of SKIL Act of 2006 to take care of the plight of Temporary visa holders. By clubbing the provisions for both legal and illegal population in one bill did much harm to this community as they were totally neglected by the congressmen. These people pay taxes, social security (unfortunately cannot be claimed once they leave this country), contribute to the social causes by volunteering, donating during emergencies and they very much feel themselves a part of this nation.
But the administration failed to reform current Visa availability issue which is doing much harm to the nation.
The public is expected to understand the plight of these people and pressurize congress to pass this bill and not misunderstand the other immigration bills pending in senate which are controversial. These people deserve credit and appreciation for helping this nation and definitely needs a much awaited attention from the public and Government.
Surendra K Suman
http://surendraksuman.blogspot.com/
________
CR125M (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Honda_CR125M)
I have written this article on the plight of Work visa holders.Feel free to make editions.
Here it is..
Rewards of Being a Legal Immigrant!
The spirit of this nation had always been to award hard working and law abiding people irrespective of their color, race, culture or origin. But off late there has been a rise in the anti-immigration sentiment. One reason for this is an alarming rise in the illegal immigrants in United States estimated to be around 12 million. This has led many to believe that immigrants in general are not good for the already settled (Permanent residents and Citizens) Americans and they depress economy and put burden on the economy. This is a false notion harbored by many and needs analysis. First of all there is a vast difference between a legal and an illegal immigrant. A legal immigrant or people living temporary are here to help this nation make progress and are here to contribute to the economy of this nation. They have come here on the specific request by the companies; universities and other organizations. They are unnecessarily being victimized for their status as part of the larger immigrant community. They are the most misunderstood community today among the immigrants in general.
The temporary visitors largely are H-1 B, L-1 and Business visa holders .Many of these people are here for many years and waiting for their Green Card after having applied for it. While they continue to work for the same employer waiting for their permanent residency, they feel stagnated in their career path, salaries and even on personal development front because the law does not permit them to change employer while their green card is under process. If they do change then the whole process will have to start afresh.
As one frustrated and depressed work visa holder, Rajneesh puts it ?The plight of an immigrant can only be understood by those who are in the same shoes?. A legal immigrant who is in USA is only here on invitation by the US based companies or organizations willing to legally sponsor them for reasons that they do not have enough skilled professionals to do the job. The fate of being a person waiting in queue for a Green Card was never dreamt by me unless I was a victim of such a wait myself. The whole life revolves around waiting for just one card called green card. All the life?s plans are shelved off for some future dates. Many of them wait for settlement as they fear that buying a home or property or starting their own company may be at risk if their green Card is not approved or if they are out of status and in that case they may have to leave the country. There is a constant fear lurking in their psyche that what if they are laid off when they are waiting for their visa dates to become current so that they can apply for adjustment of status. Their dependent wives cannot work legally as law does not permit them to work while on dependent visa. These in many cases have resulted in domestic violence and depressed spouses resulting in disturbed and broken families.The spouses of these legal temporary residents stay at home and feel frustrated as they are also highly educated and can tremendously contribute to the development of the nation if given an opportunity. They feel choked as they have to plan well ahead in time for visits to home country and have to keep themselves abreast with latest immigration laws and by laws. A lack of this planning and understanding has resulted in many being denied entry while trying to re-enter. There are so many issues that they have to deal with being a temporary resident here just because they chose to come to America in search of realizing the American Dream. Most of them feel as if they made a wrong decision having come to America. This has sent a negative feedback in their native countries that America is no longer a welcoming nation for temporary work visa holders and one may have to wait up to more than ten years to get permanent residency. This feedback has turned many potential high tech and software professionals elsewhere. The current wait time in Canada and Australia is less than a year. European nations are also becoming a very welcoming society for these people. So the competition to secure them is getting hot.
While the wait becomes long the anxiety and depression starts to sets in most of the cases. Many have therefore already left this country and this is a drain on the economy as they are now a part of other nation?s economic development. Many of this class of people were educated in United States and were contributing but the immigration laws have forced them to go elsewhere. This class of people have advanced degrees from either US or other countries and have an average work experience of more than 3 years.They form the top class professionals among the populatoin and their loss is a loss to this nation.America is land of opportunity and for those willing to work hard for a better future should be rewarded and taken care of, but it seems there is no one listening right now to their voice. The spirit of America seems to be getting lost somewhere.
There are organization and groups like NumbersUSA who oppose any increase in their visa numbers which can drastically help these victims of bureaucracy, but due to their short sightedness they fail to see that the same people whom they are opposed to will help increase the economic well being of this nation once they become permanent residents. This is so because once they get permanent residency, they all will move up in the ladder demanding higher salaries and thus supporting the proponents of anti-immigrants view point. Right now they are all stuck in the same state for years. This may in some case lead to their exploitation which may in fact depress wages. Their short-sightedness, misinformation and vague propaganda have created an atmosphere where the na?ve public fails to understand the difference between the real benefactors and illegal immigrants. This has led public develop an overall anti-immigrant sentient.
Presently there is a bill pending in Senate called the SKIL bill (S.2691) introduced by senator John Cornyn (TX) Co-sponsored by George Allen (R, VA), Wayne Allard (CO), Bennett Robert (UT) and others. There is another related bill introduced by John Shadegg (AZ).This bill seeks to increase the annual visa caps for Immigrants visa under Employment category, exempt students who earned masters in USA, Allows to apply for Adjustment of Status even though there may not be immediate available Visa numbers. The bill is intended to secure the American competitiveness in 21st century while countries like India, China, Australia and European countries compete for skilled man power in Software and high tech sector to secure their competitiveness. This bill will help reduce the wait times for Temporary work Visa holders helping them assimilate faster in US society and thus securing the nations? interest.
There are reforms for this class of immigrants in the much debated comprehensive immigration Reform Bill passed by Senate but congress did not pass it. These provisions got lost in the shadow of illegal immigration debate and therefore separate bills were introduced by way of SKIL Act of 2006 to take care of the plight of Temporary visa holders. By clubbing the provisions for both legal and illegal population in one bill did much harm to this community as they were totally neglected by the congressmen. These people pay taxes, social security (unfortunately cannot be claimed once they leave this country), contribute to the social causes by volunteering, donating during emergencies and they very much feel themselves a part of this nation.
But the administration failed to reform current Visa availability issue which is doing much harm to the nation.
The public is expected to understand the plight of these people and pressurize congress to pass this bill and not misunderstand the other immigration bills pending in senate which are controversial. These people deserve credit and appreciation for helping this nation and definitely needs a much awaited attention from the public and Government.
Surendra K Suman
http://surendraksuman.blogspot.com/
________
CR125M (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Honda_CR125M)
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anju
07-19 05:23 PM
Guys,
Can I change my PD after filing 485? My RIR LC is waiting at BEC and I will apply for one more 140 which earlier PD.
Thanks,
Anju
Can I change my PD after filing 485? My RIR LC is waiting at BEC and I will apply for one more 140 which earlier PD.
Thanks,
Anju
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eb3_nepa
07-05 11:41 AM
Bumping this thread.
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09-14 09:57 PM
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Thanks. Looks like the first time contributors are motivating others. Can we (karan and I) have more contributions please? Sept18th is round the corner. Just wanted to get all 401K contributions in before people start travelling. we still have one last round after this.
Thanks. Looks like the first time contributors are motivating others. Can we (karan and I) have more contributions please? Sept18th is round the corner. Just wanted to get all 401K contributions in before people start travelling. we still have one last round after this.
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man-woman-and-gc
09-10 08:15 PM
Well....what happened was in line with what USCIS has done in the past..Last year they made the PD's current and then made it unavailable...this year they jumped the PD by 2.5 years and so the next thing was obviously to retrogress it back by 1 year behind the original date...
For the first time they have not surprised me !!!!!
For the first time they have not surprised me !!!!!
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stldude
08-10 03:29 PM
Congrats - Is u'r 485 processed in NSC. Do you have the SRC** or LIN *** for the receipt no.
All 6 of our checks got cleared today below are the details
I-485/131/765 recd date: 2nd july 07
I-485/131/765 notice date: 06th Aug 07
Service Center send : NSC
I-140 approved : on 31-May-06, TSC
Got Recipts : NO
All 6 of our checks got cleared today below are the details
I-485/131/765 recd date: 2nd july 07
I-485/131/765 notice date: 06th Aug 07
Service Center send : NSC
I-140 approved : on 31-May-06, TSC
Got Recipts : NO
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Pineapple
01-06 04:58 PM
The video is obviously edited, so it is hard to put some of the statements into context without access to the entire transcript. (In any case, we cannot see what charts he is referring to)
Anyway: Regarding the point that it is relatively easy to find skilled people here than in India, I tend to agree. However, the reason is that the most skilled graduates from India (and China) do not stick around for long there, and are actually to be found here! Without checking the raw data it is impossible to comment on Mr Wadhwa's assertion regarding ease of filling positions in US vs India/China. (For instance, does his data on US companies include positions (in US) filled by immigrants or does it include only positions filled by US born citizens?)
Getting to where he is amazed that R&D is done in India & China, I'm not sure why that is surprising, and indeed, why should it even contradict his assertion that the vast majority of Indian/Chinese graduates are appalling. I'm not commenting on whether that assertion is true or not. I do not know, but, even granting it is true, it is important to remember that a minority of a large population might be as big, or bigger than the majority of a small population. (Remember, you have to exclude all foreign students from US universities and only include US born citizens in the population of American engineers. Why? Because all foreign students would need H1 to work here, just the same as a student in a Indian/Chinese university. To avoid 'double counting' basically) So how do we compare apples to apples? How do we compare "number of good engineers in US" vs "number of good engineers in China/India"? It is very hard to do that via a survey, if not impossible. The best survey is observing the "invisible hand" of the market: If good research is done in India/China, while simultaneously, immigrants from there have a had a huge role to play in Silicon Valley's success, that tells you something, does it not?
Anyway: Regarding the point that it is relatively easy to find skilled people here than in India, I tend to agree. However, the reason is that the most skilled graduates from India (and China) do not stick around for long there, and are actually to be found here! Without checking the raw data it is impossible to comment on Mr Wadhwa's assertion regarding ease of filling positions in US vs India/China. (For instance, does his data on US companies include positions (in US) filled by immigrants or does it include only positions filled by US born citizens?)
Getting to where he is amazed that R&D is done in India & China, I'm not sure why that is surprising, and indeed, why should it even contradict his assertion that the vast majority of Indian/Chinese graduates are appalling. I'm not commenting on whether that assertion is true or not. I do not know, but, even granting it is true, it is important to remember that a minority of a large population might be as big, or bigger than the majority of a small population. (Remember, you have to exclude all foreign students from US universities and only include US born citizens in the population of American engineers. Why? Because all foreign students would need H1 to work here, just the same as a student in a Indian/Chinese university. To avoid 'double counting' basically) So how do we compare apples to apples? How do we compare "number of good engineers in US" vs "number of good engineers in China/India"? It is very hard to do that via a survey, if not impossible. The best survey is observing the "invisible hand" of the market: If good research is done in India/China, while simultaneously, immigrants from there have a had a huge role to play in Silicon Valley's success, that tells you something, does it not?
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shsk
07-20 01:20 PM
Hope they bring back interim EAD, that should solve some problem.
But I cannot imagine the long lines in local Service centres:p
But I cannot imagine the long lines in local Service centres:p
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wandmaker
05-23 08:54 AM
wondering how yu came up with a list of contributors.......if i provide my transfer confirmations to IV and still cannot find my name in the list then how will I trust the veracity of yur list.....
....not for an argument but a query
It is not automatic - santb1975 has to manually go through the posts and update the list. Manual error happens - if your/anyone's name is missing, please do post in this thread, the list will be updated as soon as possible (not in the next minute or hour).
....not for an argument but a query
It is not automatic - santb1975 has to manually go through the posts and update the list. Manual error happens - if your/anyone's name is missing, please do post in this thread, the list will be updated as soon as possible (not in the next minute or hour).
nixstor
06-10 12:24 PM
Just to summarize what's going to happen with VB in final Quarter.
Two words: Nothing Positive
CIS and DOS officials are meeting every week after July 07 fiasco. They have a better handle on the visa number utilization than they ever had in the past years. As a result they have max utilization of visa numbers and don't be surprised if DOS decides to move EB2 India and China a month or two back. Neither India EB2 nor China EB2 is going to move past Oct 2004 before Oct 08 bulletin.
Two words: Nothing Positive
CIS and DOS officials are meeting every week after July 07 fiasco. They have a better handle on the visa number utilization than they ever had in the past years. As a result they have max utilization of visa numbers and don't be surprised if DOS decides to move EB2 India and China a month or two back. Neither India EB2 nor China EB2 is going to move past Oct 2004 before Oct 08 bulletin.
Nagireddi
09-16 09:53 AM
Dear friends,
Unfortunately, I am not able to attend the rally. I have just found out that my cheques have been cashed. I am contributing another $100 once again.Google Order #373309135239869
My sincere prayers to the god that our rally will be a huge success.Good luck for all of us.Keep sending us the photos,videos as the events are happening.
I LOVE IV.:)
Applied 140/485 concurrent on 8/6/07 to NSC-EB2
Unfortunately, I am not able to attend the rally. I have just found out that my cheques have been cashed. I am contributing another $100 once again.Google Order #373309135239869
My sincere prayers to the god that our rally will be a huge success.Good luck for all of us.Keep sending us the photos,videos as the events are happening.
I LOVE IV.:)
Applied 140/485 concurrent on 8/6/07 to NSC-EB2
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